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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:39:00 -
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God be with you then Lord Falek
And always remember
"The word of the Lord is pure,
It is a shield for the faithful,
Brought unto men by the Angels,
As a guiding light in the darkness "
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
308
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Posted - 2013.07.06 01:03:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light?
It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense?
Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become. Yun we are supportive of the dealing of the Caldari and the Amarr. Adamance does not suggest we kill slaves. Emperor Heideran instructed us to treat all slaves fairly, and to go against his words would be going against God. He suggests we kill rebellious Matari terrorists. Note how Lord Falek metions the immortal matari. No slave is made immortal, nor immortal made slave, such is a dangerous scenario. He's modified his post since my remark, Mr. Vysarii, modifying "slave" to "terrorist." Note the time of his last edit. I'm perfectly willing (and relieved) to believe that the original was a typo. Edit: Ah-- and his last post, "FTFY"-- "fixed that for you," I believe. He didn't modify his quote from me that I can tell; if I'm not mistaken, he modified his own. Well, that's a relief. Standard-issue aggression is a major improvement over ... well ... ... starting to come across like capsuleers?
I suppose it is true that many of the older generation clone would see the Matari as what they once were, and feel embittered about their rebelliions after our defeat by the Jovians, all we desired was the uplift them from the squalor of their dark ages, but they could not understand our goals then. Perhaps in time such bitterness will fade and the Matari will come to understand what we strove to do. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
524
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Posted - 2013.07.10 06:57:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:You care about the minmatar and say that you will execute them. Why don't you open your eyes and stop listening to your country . I did and my life is more free then it ever will be. If you are hunting the minmatar down then you should include me because fighting against a government who pushes the countries religion on its people is more profitable then attacking a poor mimintar territory. In morals and money.
I like many other mercs choose to support out nations out of loyalty, we do not need money or infamy when such ideals are on the line.
Also I guarantee you fighting for the Amarr is going to net you much greater benefits that fighting for such a misguided people. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
525
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Posted - 2013.07.10 08:28:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light?
It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense?
Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become. Yun we are supportive of the dealing of the Caldari and the Amarr. Adamance does not suggest we kill slaves. Emperor Heideran instructed us to treat all slaves fairly, and to go against his words would be going against God. He suggests we kill rebellious Matari terrorists. Note how Lord Falek metions the immortal matari. No slave is made immortal, nor immortal made slave, such is a dangerous scenario. Owning slaves is a sin and goes against nature. These types of attitudes will not be tolerated and the very people you now enslave will one day rise up and show you the meaning of punishment. I hope I am there for that day. Owning slaves may be wrong but putting slave owners down isn't. Be prepared and ever mindful because history is just a haloreel set on repeat.
The Matari shall be converted, there is not if it is a matter of when. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
741
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Posted - 2013.07.18 05:57:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:Maikyl Metsar wrote:I would like to state here that PIE, in accordance with the wishes of Her Majesty Empress Jamyl, does not tolerate the brutalization or murder of slaves.
"Emperor Heideran VII stated that slaves must be treated fairly, a sentiment our current Empress shares. We, as upholders of the faith and guardians of the Empire, must therefore be seen to treat slaves fairly. If we do not, we go against the word of our Empress and therefore the word of God.
PIE Inc members are free to keep and trade slaves. But slaves will not be murdered in cold blood. There is no rational reason for such behaviour, punishments according to the crimes of a slave are of course permitted."
- From the PIE Ethos unless they escape and for a nation. Then there called terrorists.
If they escape to the Republic and then return to attack our people rather than our soldiers yes they are named such. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
743
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Posted - 2013.07.18 07:21:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:XANDER KAG wrote:True Adamance wrote:
If they escape to the Republic and then return to attack our people rather than our soldiers yes they are named such.
So if they escape from slavery then go about normal lives you would just leave them alone and pretend nothing happened then? Also I don't support it myself, but I'm afraid if someone in out culture did what you said we would call them hero's, not terrorist. Morality is subjective my dear Templar. Edit: I accidentally took out True ardemence quote before Xander Kag
No it is not. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
747
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Posted - 2013.07.18 23:00:00 -
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No. There are only the Scriptures. They dictate morality. They ensure we follow the righteous path. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
748
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Posted - 2013.07.19 03:35:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:True Adamance wrote:No. There are only the Scriptures. They dictate morality. They ensure we follow the righteous path. They are the guiding light of your faith, yes? ... your faith, respectfully. For those who follow other paths, it is not apparent that your scriptures contain any universal truth. If it were, you would have a much easier job saving the souls of humankind.
There is only one faith.... but I see we shall not yet agree on that at this time. |
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